Apr 14, 2026Host

Charge It To The Game w/ John Drexler & Daniel Coulbourne

Charge It To The Game w/ John Drexler & Daniel Coulbourne
Show notes

Ian is joined by John Drexler & Daniel Coulbourne of Thunk to talk about their new app Tidy, what constitutes a moat in the age of AI, why phone spam is the absolute worst, and so much more.

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(00:00) - Bottomless Pits

(03:05) - Tidyup.agency

(15:30) - Zero Risk Agency

(23:23) - The Schtick Is The Moat

(37:52) - You Might Need To Pay Some Professionals

(44:53) - Everyone's Playing Their Hands

(52:39) - Business Dad Thoughts

(01:22:03) - The Hard Pitch

Links:Thunk - https://thunk.dev Daniel Coulbourne - https://x.com/DCoulbourne John Drexler - https://x.com/johnrudolphdrex Tidy - https://tidyup.agency Talking Businessly Ep 89 w/ Justin Jackson - https://podcast.thunk.dev/episodes/89-empaneling-justin-jackson Laravel Road Show: New York City - https://luma.com/p2mucvs1 Silicon Valley clip 'Why would you go after revenue?' - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYJdKW-UnFQ Laravel Partners - https://laravel.com/partners Arango - https://arango.ai

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